20-Scotti Family in Agropoli: Carmine and Maria Giovanna


The research done by Anthony Vermandois at Imagines Maiorum-Ancestors from Campania forms the basis for this exploration into the lives of our ancestors who lived in Agropoli.

Imagines Maiorum includes a compilation of vital statistics for families who lived in Agropoli, Atripalda, Castellabate, Laureana Cilento, Monte san Giacomo, Padula.  New data is being compiled for the residents of these towns who immigrated abroad.

For this week’s posting we’ve used the charts of descent for the Scotti and di Giaimo families.

Relationship Notes

Carmine Scotti was the son of Francesco and Rosolia (nee Patella) Scotti.

He was:
–Uncle Sammy’s Great Grandfather
–EmilyAnn’s 2nd Great Grandfather


Carmine’s Grandfather, Aniello Scotti and his Uncle Giuseppe Scotti, cousin Fillipo Scotti, and father Francesco Scotti are described as “possidente” when their occupation is listed in the records Anthony Vermandois has researched.  “Possidente” in the 19th century Italy could have meant the owner of land, owner of a building or buildings or both.

Some development changed the family situation so that Carmine and his brother did not continue in the profession of their father.  He and his brother became fishermen.  Uncle Sammy and I considered various scenarios in a previous posting that might have led to this change.

On May 27th, 1869 Carmine married Maria Giovanna di Giaimo of Agropoli.  The di Giaimo family appears only once in relation to the other families in our bloodline.  The di Giaimo family members do not appear as travelling companions of our ancestors when we review ship passenger lists.  They also did not marry into the extended families of our bloodline.  Nor were there any friendships between the di Giaimo family and the Muro, Serrapede or Scotti family members in the U.S. that we know of.  In an effort to get to know Maria Giovanna better, my Uncle and I reviewed her entire pedigree chart based on Anthony Vermandois’ research.  The following exercise we did made the family more familiar to us.

The di Giaimo Family Line

We are numbering the generations to make identifying them easier in the pedigree chart.

1.  The earliest ancestor Anthony has located is Giuseppe di Giaimo, born before 1790.  He married Maddalena Montone.  Their children were:

—Francesco b.1806
—-Antonia b.1807
—-Costabile b.1813

Maddalena does not appear as a daughter amongst the Montone families Anthony has researched so far so at this point her lineage is not known to us.

Giuseppe’s profession was “bracciante” which translates as laborer.

2.  Giuseppe and Maddalena’s oldest son Francesco is our direct line ancestor.  Francesco’s profession is listed as “colono” which translates as “settler” or “tenant”.  At Dictionary Reverso, this word is given as a synonym for “contadino” which means tenant farmer. Francesco married Irene Guzzi and became the father of:

—-Giuseppe b.1830,
—-Maddalena b.1840
—-Giovanna b.1845 (a/k/a Maria Giovanna)

At this time, there is no information available about Irene and the Guzzi family.

3. Francesco and Irene’s daughter Giovanna became the wife of Carmine Scotti.  In Anthony’s entry for the marriage her name was now known as Maria Giovanna.

Identifying the relationships

1.  Giuseppe and Maddalena di Giaimo are Sammy’s 3rd Great Grandparents.

2.  Francesco and Irene di Giaimo are Sammy’s 2nd Great Grandparents.

3.  Carmine and Maria (nee di Giaimo) Scotti are Sammy’s Great Grandparents.

And from here:

–Carmine and Maria’s daughter Letizia was Sammy’s maternal Grandmother.

–Letizia’s daughter Josie was Sammy’s Mother.

The Children of Carmine and Maria Giovanna Scotti

The appearance of two children born one year apart and having the same name usually means the first child with that name died. We see this in other records Anthony has provided.  It is good to list the names and review the dates of birth.  Details arise that are not always noticeable when viewing charts and family trees.  We also noticed something that we hadn’t known before:

—-Raffaele born 1870
—-Raffaele born 1871
—-Evangelista born 1873
—-Antonio 1875-
—-Fedele 1878-1958
—-Mariano 1880-1958
—-Antonio 1885-1890
—-Concetta 1888-1960
—-Letizia 1888-1921
—-Elisa 1891-1988

The big surprise for Uncle Sammy and I was learning that Letizia had a twin sister, Concetta.  For months we wondered if they were identical twins.  I asked around my Mother’s relatives and learned from one that Letizia and Concetta were sororal twins.  While we do not know what Letizia looked like this inquiry yielded little memories that were passed down in the family of this relative.  These touching memories will be shared when the postings focus on Letizia after she immigrated to America.

Concetta, Letizia and Elisa were born during the years that were part of the time period when great numbers of Southern Italians immigrated to the United States.  Letizia came here after she had been married and had her first child.  Shortly after that Concetta and Elisa followed.

I wonder how Carmine and Maria felt as they watched their three youngest daughters leave the country of their birth.  So far I do not have any travel records that show Letizia making a return trip to Agropoli.  She may have remained in the United States with her husband Pietro Muro later known as Peter Muro after the family settled in Wilmerding, Pennsylvania and never returned at all to her homeland.  What makes this especially poignant is that Letizia passed way just 11 years after immigrating to America.  Her story has always been close to my heart.  For Uncle Sammy the recreation of her life story is a great learning experience since the family did not speak of Letizia all that much.  What I always knew was that Letizia died very young and had confided in her daughter Josie (my maternal Grandmother) how unhappy she was with the frequency of her pregnancies.  She never complained to anyone but there were days she was noticeably weak and drawn.   As we continued our research based on Ancestry and family interviews the kernel of my Mother’s story proved true.  I am so happy I can share this with my Uncle and also satisfy that feeling within that there was more to the story.