46c-D’Agosto and Carnicelli Families in America: Family and Work, Part 3

Acknowledgement

Genealogist Anthony Vermandois has researched families of the Campania region in Italy. We have used the charts of descent for several families in Agropoli who appear in Parts 1-3 of the posting 46c-D’Agosto and Carnicelli Families in America: Family and Work. To view the source information for these families, please click on a surname below. A new browser window will open and navigate to the page for that family.

Carnicelli

D’Agosto

Romaniello

Introduction

Uncle Sammy grew up on 65th Street between 12th and 13th Avenues during the 1940s and 1950s. As we reviewed records for his Uncle Giuseppe D’Agosto we discovered a connection to members of the Carnicelli family who immigrated to America and settled in Dyker Heights and lived on 65th Street. Uncle Sammy asked me to find out if the Julia Carnicelli he remembers from his childhood was related to Giuseppe D’Agosto.

At last, we find Julia

The search for Julia Carnicelli first led us to learn about her brother-in-law Joseph Carnicelli who was featured in Part 1 and Part 2 of this series.

At ImaginesMaiorum, we found Julia entered as Giulia Romaniello, wife of Antonio Carnicelli. Antonio was Joseph’s younger brother. After his arrival in America he was known as Anthony. Anthony was born in Agropoli on January 22 1907. He immigrated to the United States in 1930 and became a citizen after that.

Julia Romaniello Carnicelli in 1940

At ImaginesMaiorum, Julia appears listed in the Carnicelli chart of descent for Anthony’s family. She appears as his wife. However, in the chart for the Romaniello family there is no cross-reference available. There is no entry for a daughter named Giulia who married Antonio Carnicelli. The next source of information we retrieved came from the 1940 Federal Census.

46c-1940 Fed Cen index Julia Carnicelli

1940 Federal Census Index entry for Julia Carnicelli.

In 1940, Julia was 29 years old and Anthony was 33 years old. He worked as a shoe laster. Julia and Anthony were parents of Dominick (8 years old) and Anthony, Jr. (4 years old). The family lived two blocks away from Joseph Carnicelli in an apartment house located at 6806 13th Avenue.

13th Avenue was, and still is, one of the main shopping thoroughfares in Dyker Heights. In the 1930s and 1940s the buildings were multi-family dwellings with stores on the ground level. Most of the buildings like this started around 69th Street and continued up to 86th Street along 13th Avenue.

Julia Carnicelli became a widow in 1957 when Anthony passed away at the age of 50.

This is all the information we could obtain about Julia from research. At this point, therefore, we can only say that Julia was Giuseppe D’Agosto’s relative by marriage. Since we do not have a connection to her in the charts for the Romaniello family we do not know if at any point there were closer ties created by intermarriage between the Romaniello and D’Agosto families. Uncle Sammy, though, has many memories of Julia visiting the Serrapede family. The memories intertwine with those of the building where she lived on 13th Avenue.

Discussion with Uncle Sammy on Sunday, December 6, 2015, 11 a.m. to 11:45 A.M.

Julia Carnicelli was very close to Josie Serrapede (Sammy’s Mom and EmilyAnn’s maternal Grandma). They frequently visited each other’s homes since they only lived three blocks away from each other.

We discussed the trolley line that ran along 69th Street. Uncle Sammy remembers that it started around 1st or 2nd Avenue and 69th Street where ferry lines ran from Brooklyn to Staten Island and New York. The trolley line ran straight down 69th Street until it came to 13th Avenue where it turned right. Then the line ran along 13th Avenue until it reached 86th Street. From there it turned left again and continued down towards 18th Avenue where another business and shopping thoroughfare began. Uncle Sammy told me the trolley line continued into the 1950s when it was replaced by a bus line.

The multi-family dwelling where Julia and Anthony Carnicelli lived was situated before the start of the commercial part of 13th Avenue. Above 69th Street and 13th Avenue the multi-family buildings all had stores on the ground level. The apartment houses below 69th Street were all residential.

Resources

1940 Federal Census
Julia Carnicelli
Year: 1940; Census Place: New York, Kings, New York; Roll: T627_2573; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 24-1061

Additional Reading

13th Avenue, Brooklyn, NY
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Avenue_(Brooklyn)

13th Avenue, Brooklyn
Forgotten New York

13TH AVENUE, Brooklyn

 

 

6 thoughts on “46c-D’Agosto and Carnicelli Families in America: Family and Work, Part 3

      1. It would be fun to meet! Of course, my daughter and grandsons absorb most of my time and attention since I don’t get to see them as often as I’d like—but maybe coffee sometime!

      2. That would be great–but only if it’s stress free. When the time is right all factors will converge. I understand how visits can go–There’s never enough time for all the catching up.

      3. Yep… I have so many “new” cousins I want to meet, and I just can never find the time or place.

      4. I think it’s very easy to swept away. That happened in 2013 when I started family history research. This year I intend to scale back. As exciting as it all is our real time family and family of friends who are with us through all ups and downs always get priority.

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