Summer Break 2017: Michael Muro’s trip to Italy, Part 1

Introduction

In this posting I share some updates on the Memorial Day Carnicelli-Muro family meet-up I joined and some details about Michael’s current trip to Italy.

Relationship Notes

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Michael Muro’s and EmilyAnn May’s pedigree charts showing our common ancestor, eNicola (Nick) Muro.  EmilyAnn’s shows just her maternal line.

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EmilyAnn’s Pedigree Chart showing descent from her4th Great Grandmother, Giuseppa Carnicelli

–Michael Muro, Nick Muro and I share Nicola Muro as our common ancestor.
Nicola (Nick after coming to the U.S.) Muro was Michael and Nick’s paternal Grandfather.
Nicola was my Great Grandfather through the maternal line.

–Giuseppe Carnicelli is descended from the branch of the Carnicelli family from which my 4th Great Grandmother Giuseppa Carnicelli came from.
Like other descendants with ancestors from Agropoli, Michael Muro also has a connection with the Carnicelli family.  Micheal and Giuseppe are cousins.

We have not discovered the common ancestor between Giuseppe Carnicelli and me but perhaps in time we will.

Like Michael, I consider the connection a living one.  And in keeping with the Muro family approach, we call each other Cousin.  There is no such thing as First, Second, Third or Cousin 1 time removed, 2 times removed and so on.  We share bloodlines and a common ancestral hometown.  Good enough–it’s all family!

Our Memorial Day Get-together

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At the Brooklyn Wine Bar.  Left to right:  Giuseppe, Michael and Nick.

During Memorial Day weekend I had a very pleasant meet-up with Cousins Michael and Nick Muro.  I met another relative I now consider a cousin, Giuseppe Carnicelli.  Giuseppe stayed with Michael for three months while they toured several towns and visited relatives in the U.S.  At the same time Giuseppe took English language conversation, reading and writing classes in Pittsburgh during the times they were not travelling.

We met up at The Brooklyn Wine Bar in historic Brooklyn Heights.  The venue was much, much smaller than the way it appeared on their website and the menu much more limited on a weekend.  What made the afternoon memorable was sharing our family stories and catching up all recent developments.  After lunch we took a short walk around Brooklyn Heights to make sure we sent Giuseppe back to Agropoli with some scenes that included shots in front of brownstones, old townhouses and a park in the area.

Photos from the Muro-Carnicelli Get-together, Sunday May 28th, 2017

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Nick Muro, Giuseppe Carnicelli and Michael Muro in park across from the Brooklyn Wine Bar.

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Giuseppe Carnicelli outside one of the historic townhouses in Brooklyn Heights.

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Pretty townhouses aside, we couldn’t leave Brooklyn Heights before getting a photo of Giuseppe in front of a brownstone house.  Many of these brownstones are 100 years old or more.

Update from Michael Muro while he is vacationing in Italy

I heard from Michael this past week.  After July 4th he returned to Italy with Giuseppe.  Giuseppe continues with his English studies via Skype three times a week.  Michael thinks he will do well when he takes an exam on his English langage skills for admission to the University in Torino next month.

On either July 28th or 29th Michael and Giuseppe will travel to Calabria to visit Antonio Aiello, the nephew of Rosina Aiello Marasco Muro (Michael’s Grandmother).   Antonio and his wife Aldisa will be there.  Antonio’s son and two daughters will be in town as well.  Michael is looking forward to meeting more of his newly discovered relatives from Calabria and learning more about his beloved Grandma Rose, as well.  Antonio shared many letters and photos during the last visit.

Michael will share more about his vacation in the weeks ahead.

For more details on Michael’s first meeting with Antonio and Aldisa please visit this posting:  https://throughthebyzantinegate.wordpress.com/2017/05/02/46g-aiello-family-of-calabria-connecting-with-the-family-of-rosina-aiello-marasco-muro/

46c-D’Agosto and Carnicelli Families in America: Family and Work, Part 3

Acknowledgement

Genealogist Anthony Vermandois has researched families of the Campania region in Italy. We have used the charts of descent for several families in Agropoli who appear in Parts 1-3 of the posting 46c-D’Agosto and Carnicelli Families in America: Family and Work. To view the source information for these families, please click on a surname below. A new browser window will open and navigate to the page for that family.

Carnicelli

D’Agosto

Romaniello

Introduction

Uncle Sammy grew up on 65th Street between 12th and 13th Avenues during the 1940s and 1950s. As we reviewed records for his Uncle Giuseppe D’Agosto we discovered a connection to members of the Carnicelli family who immigrated to America and settled in Dyker Heights and lived on 65th Street. Uncle Sammy asked me to find out if the Julia Carnicelli he remembers from his childhood was related to Giuseppe D’Agosto.

At last, we find Julia

The search for Julia Carnicelli first led us to learn about her brother-in-law Joseph Carnicelli who was featured in Part 1 and Part 2 of this series.

At ImaginesMaiorum, we found Julia entered as Giulia Romaniello, wife of Antonio Carnicelli. Antonio was Joseph’s younger brother. After his arrival in America he was known as Anthony. Anthony was born in Agropoli on January 22 1907. He immigrated to the United States in 1930 and became a citizen after that.

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46c-D’Agosto and Carnicelli Families in America: Family and Work, Part 2

Acknowledgement

The charts of descent from ImaginesMaiorum-Ancestors of Campania were used to research details about families appearing in this series of postings. To view these charts please click on the surname to open a new navigation window to the site. We thank Anthony Vermandois for making this valuable data available.

Carnicelli

D’Agosto

Romaniello

Margiotta

Comunale

Taddeo

Introduction

In Part 1 of 46c-D’Agosto and Carnicelli Families in America: Work and Family we learned about the relationships between Giuseppe D’Agosto and his cousins Joseph and Anthony. They were his first cousins through his maternal line.

In 1925 Joseph appears as a member of Giuseppe D’Agosto’s family who lived in an apartment in Brooklyn. Joseph’s marital status is entered as “Married” but no wife appears with him in the census record. Initially Uncle Sammy and I thought that Joseph’s job as a shoe shiner may not have enabled him to support a family. We wondered if his marriage suffered some financial strain.

Further research at ImaginesMaiorum provided details into the pain and loss Joseph Carnicelli suffered during the years of his first and second marriages.

Personal sadness: Losing a spouse in 1919 and again in 1924

Joseph’s first marriage was to Anna Communale. She was born on June 3rd, 1890 to Costabile and Giovanna (nee Ruocco) Comunale. There is no date for the marriage. Joseph and Anna’s son Saverio was born in 1914. Anna died in Agropoli on June 21, 1919. We do not know the reasons why baby Saverio does not appear with Giuseppe’s other children in the records of his second marriage.

Francesca Margiotta was Joseph’s second wife. She was born on April 1, 1895 to Luigi and Anna (nee Ciao) Margiotta. Francesca had three children by Joseph: Vincent (b. 1921), Anna (b. 1923) and Raphael (b. 1924). She died on December 15, 1924.

The 1925 New York State Census page on which Joseph Carnicelli appears as a member of the D’Agosto household was dated June 1, 1925. His marital status is entered as “M” for married. Given that Francesca died on December 15, 1924 we think that Joseph did not observe the traditional period of 1 year of mourning before marrying again. He had three young children to care for. We think at the time of the New York State Census, Joseph’s third wife was in Agropoli waiting to come to America.

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46b-D’Agosto and Carnicelli Families-Agropoli and Brooklyn

Acknowledgement

The genealogical research by Anthony Vermandois of ImaginesMaiorum-Ancestors from Campania forms the basis of this posting. We have used Anthony’s charts of descent for the following families:

Charts for D’Agosto Family Lines

Carnicelli Family http://www.imaginesmaiorum.net/surname.cfm?id=582

Taddeo Family http://www.imaginesmaiorum.net/surname.cfm?id=134

d’Agosto Family http://www.imaginesmaiorum.net/surname.cfm?id=668

Introduction

This posting serves as a bridge between our introduction of Giuseppe D’Agosto in 46a-D’Agosto Family – Giuseppe comes to America and the three part series that follows this current posting. There are two Giuseppes in this narrative as well as what appeared to be a tenuous relationship between our families through the D’Agosto matriarch, Rafaella Carnicelli D’Agosto, and our matriarch, Giuseppa Carnicelli Ruocco (part of the Muro line).

Uncle Sammy and I are glad we paused to look through all these factors because the findings enabled us to be more accurate in our three part series. It also helped us understand how easily one can mistake a paeasano (friend from the old hometown) for a cugina or cugino (cousin). We also resorted to the expedient device of calling one of the Giuseppes by his American name of Joseph since that is what he used most often for the Census interviews.  You will meet Joseph Carnicelli in the next posting.

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46a-D’Agosto Family – Giuseppe comes to America

Acknowledgement

The research of genealogist Anthony Vermandois provides the basis for this week’s posting. At his website, ImaginesMaiorum-Ancestors from Campania, data from vital records is presented for inhabitants of Agropoli and other towns from the late 18th through the early 20th centuries. We have used his charts of descent for the d’Agosto family of Agropoli to present the family background of Giuseppe D’Agosto.

Giuseppe’s surname is spelled as d’Agosto at Anthony’s website.   The vital records we have obtained through Ancestry display variations. After Giuseppe came to America we see his surname spelled as D’Agosto, Dagosto or D’agosto. We are using the spelling of D’Agosto since this is the one we have seen written on the back of the photos we have and also a postcard from Giuseppe’s daughter Emilia.

The charts of descent for the D’Agosto family of Agropoli can be viewed at Imagines Maiorum.

Relationship Notes

Giuseppe D’Agosto is related to Uncle Sammy and I by his marriage to Filomena Serrapede.

-Filomena Serrapede was:
–the eldest sister of Sammy’s Dad, Sam Serrapede.
–Sammy’s Paternal Aunt
–Emily Ann’s Great-Aunt (along her maternal line)

Introduction

In Posting 45-Muro Family in America: Josie comes to Brooklyn we traced the series of events which forced Josie Muro to leave her hometown of Wilmerding and come to Brooklyn sometime in late 1928 or early 1929.

Josie was introduced to her future husband Sam Serrapede after she came to Brooklyn. According to the records we have so far, Sam was living with his sister Filomena and her husband Giuseppe D’Agosto after he arrived in the United States. The relationship between Sam and his sister Filomena remained loving and strong from childhood onwards. Uncle Sammy and my late Mom grew up enjoying the company of their D‘Agosto cousins, Aunt and Uncle. The narrative of Filomena and Giuseppe’s lives and their coming to America is an important part of the relationships detailed in subsequent postings. We will, therefore, focus on Giuseppe D’Agosto’s early years in America. Like many young patriarchs of the immediate and extended family in the first generation, he emigrated from Italy when he was single. Giuseppe obtained employment and filed his naturalization papers before returning to Italy where he married Filomena before bringing her to America.

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